Mr. Antolini claims that "the mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one” (188). From this definition of maturity, do you think Holden is mature or immature or both? Explain your claim.
I think he is both. I think he is striving to be mature, but deep down he is still a little kid and has never actually grown up. You can look at the way he lies, and see that is a form of immaturity, but look at how he tries to drink and smoke and act older then he really is, you can tell he is striving to actually grow up.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with Josh on this one he is trying to be grown up and adult like but at the same time a lot of his mannerisms and his actions show he's being immature as well.
ReplyDeleteI think that Holden is trying to be grown up, which may or may not be mature or immature. Holden, in some ways, can show that he is mature, and in others he shows that he hasn't really matured to the full extent yet, if that made sense. Like I said in another post, being grown up doesn't neccesarily mean that he knows what's going on.
ReplyDeleteHolden is both of these, just at different times. He want's to "die" for a cause by flunking out of school, while he wants to live humbly for Jane. He is torn between emotions and his past tragedies, which make him hypocritical, untrustworthy, and non-confident in himself. He knows deep down inside that he is good at school, but he chooses not to because he is to angry at his brothers death that he stays angry all the time, making him unproductive.
ReplyDeleteHolden is both of these, just at different times. He want's to "die" for a cause by flunking out of school, while he wants to live humbly for Jane. He is torn between emotions and his past tragedies, which make him hypocritical, untrustworthy, and non-confident in himself. He knows deep down inside that he is good at school, but he chooses not to because he is to angry at his brothers death that he stays angry all the time, making him unproductive.
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